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Letter: Beach restoration is risky business in Destin

I am a citizen of Destin and an owner at two condominiums within the area covered by the current MSBU and the west beaches restoration program.

I spoke at the Aug. 18 meeting of the Destin City Council against the MSBU during the second reading for the adoption of the ordinance supporting the Okaloosa County action.

I was interrupted by the mayor and asked to restrict my comments to only the MSBU issue and not the violation of my riparian rights by the taking of my beachfront property.

The council has taken the attitude that the state and the county are the agencies taking our land, and that the city is merely helping with the funding by pushing the MSBU. However, if there is no MSBU, there is no money and, therefore, no beach restoration for those who do not need it.

So, how could I argue against the MSBU by not bringing up the fact that, not only is it an illegal and inequitable MSBU, but it is for an illegal purpose: the imposition of a tax on owners of ALL beachfront and surrounding property, including those who do not want beach restoration and including the beaches that are not critically-eroded. They want these owners to pay for sand that will probably be inferior, which will be dumped on the southern portion of our land that happens to be currently underwater. This results in the additional beach being declared state land (i.e. public beach).

If you own beachfront property in Destin, it is very easy to determine where your approximate southern property line is (in addition to reading your legal description or survey if you have one). Go to www.co.okaloosa.fl.us, click on “WebGIS;”  the mode should already be in the “zoom in” mode, but, if not, first click on the box labeled “zoom in.”

Then put your cursor on the approximate location of your property and zoom in” by left-clicking once.  When the next screen comes up, refine your cursor location and click again. Repeat the process. If the light blue-green property lines are not displayed, click on “Layers” and check the square box next to “Parcels,” followed by “Refresh.”

You are paying for this Web site; use it.

More disturbing than the mayor not allowing me to speak to the issue of why the MSBU should be defeated, is the impending financial disaster that may happen to the city and the county.

What the council members and others are missing is the massive financial ruin the county and the city are risking if the Florida Supreme Court rules that riparian rights can be taken but only by eminent domain (as state law now states).

The county and the city will then be on the hook for a great deal of money if the beach restoration project has already gone forward. The most important riparian rights guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution to waterfront owners, in this case, are the right to own land to the water’s edge; the right to REMAIN the owner to the water’s edge; and the right to acquire natural accretion should Mother Nature repeat it’s cycle of taking and giving along our coastline as she has done over the millennia.

The county and the city cannot fix the mistake by “giving back” property to landowners, because they have no power to convey what the state will then own.

The county and the city will either have to prove sufficient upland interest to justify and pay for a lawful taking; or, if they fail to prove sufficient upland interest, the county and city will have to pay for the unlawful taking since state law did not allow the taking to begin with.

So, either way, a “win” by the Save Our Beaches group in its court case (current case before the Florida Supreme Court against Destin and Walton County over the already-completed beach restoration to the east) could mean financial catastrophe for both entities.

And even if the Save Our Beaches group loses, that case involves only the taking of riparian rights, and not the additional issue in Destin of taking privately-owned property between the erosion control line and the 19-year mean high water line, which could cost many millions of dollars.

The County Commissioners and the City Council obviously do not understand their huge fiscal risk in moving forward on this project without knowing how many more millions of dollars it might end up costing them to pay for property and property rights taken — whether lawfully or unlawfully.

Maybe they should get a written opinion and verification of these facts and legal issues by the city attorney before proceeding further.

Roland D. Guidry is a resident of Destin.


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No waves within 50 feet of the brown sand dune line on Okaloosa island. Gustav left us new white sand. Nothing to fear here but more county delivered dark, rocky sand.

no fear - Sep 01, 2008 07:26:15 PM Remove Comment

 
hey nothing but fear. The beaches of Walton are now back to before last restoration 3 years ago. No white sand down to the black peat. How did the 400 foot beach fare in a baby blow with hurricane 400 miles from here. I wonder if the small waves made it to the duneline.

bb - Sep 01, 2008 05:14:53 PM Remove Comment

 
The restoration that has already been done is not holding. Take a look at the beach in South Walton to the east of the Whale's Tail. It has been this way for some time and got in the condition it is in without any big storms.

pt - Aug 31, 2008 11:48:09 PM Remove Comment

 
Mr. Miller, the storm peak wont even get up to the dune line on Okaloosa island. We have 400 feet of wide, deep, beach. It will be a similar story in the 3 miles of non critically eroded sections of Destin east of Jetty East that have to pay the MSBU. The only properties with something to fear from Gustav is Jetty East and Destin Pointe. They could have had their sand months ago if they had left the rest of us alone. Instead they had to have their bargain MSBU at everyone elses expense.

nothing to fear - Aug 31, 2008 10:14:21 AM Remove Comment

 
gustav is coming and maybe it can wipe out the beachfront of all those idiots opposing protection for the waterfront. idiotic comments about eminent domain for public land, gray sand, etc. should not save the day for the malcontents.

joe miller - Aug 30, 2008 08:36:04 PM Remove Comment

 
Mr. James, the beach nearest to your non beachfront property is not even critically eroded. The closest beach classified critically eroded is more than 3 miles from your property. How can you say you need beach restoration? Do you really to replace sugar white sand with dark coarse sand that bad?

the facts - Aug 28, 2008 04:30:08 PM Remove Comment

 
YES WE NEED SAND RESTORATION,,,,,,,,,,NOW

robert james - Aug 28, 2008 04:06:44 PM Remove Comment

 
Oh really Jetty East needs help in a bad way. Your group might have held that process up. Also it's really not about the sand with you guys its about turning public beach into private. Hope thank you for your prayer althought Im forth generation fishhead and proud of it. I fish hunt grow vegetables I rent my home in destin and live on a remote bayou. I can take care of myself without the need of greedy selfish people and now it has become humorous to watch these birds that fly backwards implode upon themself.

bb - Aug 27, 2008 07:54:02 PM Remove Comment

 
bb, I am praying for you.

hope - Aug 27, 2008 05:52:57 PM Remove Comment

 
The beaches do not need restoring at this point. If we have another big hurricane, that may change, but at this point it's a waste of taxpayer's money. Our taxes are high enough already, then they want to force us to waste more money on something we don't need and make us pay even MORE taxes! TOTALLY RIDICULOUS!

appalled - Aug 27, 2008 04:49:13 PM Remove Comment

 
what will have an adverse effect fiscally on local everything is GUSTAV come on baby wipe everything south of hwy 98 away bankrupt the city and turn destin into a modern day ghost town. Remember MOTHER NATURE bats last. In a few months of hurricanes the whole issue will be mute.

bb - Aug 27, 2008 11:54:03 AM Remove Comment

 
Elected officials are supposed to listen to and represent their constituents. Obviously the opinions of constituents most affected by a particular action should carry more weight. It is unfortunate that our representatives are not of that opinion. The beach I live on does not need restoration, but I guess I will be getting it anyway and paying for it! I resent my riparian rights being ignored and hope that the law suits of which I am a part will make a difference. It is unfortunate that the powers-that-be are causing this situation which could have a very adverse affect fiscally on our local government.

mike - Aug 27, 2008 11:33:57 AM Remove Comment

 
it's an old trick we locals learn from you yankees, its easier to be forgiven than get permission. On a personal note deep down i have always thought in order to return the beaches to BC before condos days was to not do anything and let mother nature do it for free. So I believe this goal will be achived quicker by siding with roland therefore Im flip floping and suporting the bird that flys backward. Good luck sir please stop restoration now and forever.

bb - Aug 26, 2008 10:11:46 PM Remove Comment

 
Roland, you've done your homework. Thanks again!

sincere - Aug 26, 2008 05:49:59 PM Remove Comment

 
The city of Destin had already been sued over the east Destin beach restoration and lost at the appeals court level. Here is what the appeals court said and I quote, Accordingly, we reverse the Department's final order approving the Joint Coastal Permit and Authorization to Use Sovereign Submerged Lands. We remand for the Department to provide satisfactory evidence of sufficient upland interest pursuant to Florida Administrative Code Rules. As provided by Florida Statutes, if the project cannot reasonably be accomplished without the taking of private property, the taking must be made by the requesting authority by eminent domain proceedings. To the extent that the Board of Trustees recorded a resolution and survey in the public records showing a boundary of STBRs members property that is different from their deeds, the resolution and survey are declared invalid as to the members property boundaries. end quote. the city of Destin knew this outcome before committing to the MSBU tax to proceed with the west Destin beach restoration. As I write this, three law suits have been filed against the current beach restoration and the MSBU tax. There may be more. The city of Destin needs to explain to its citizens why they are proceeding with the current plan when they will be probably faced with the same judicial ruling when and if it goes to appeal level. Why did they not wait for the Florida supreme court to rule on the appeal court finding before starting this current restoration and probably facing the same end result.

Roland Guidry - Aug 26, 2008 04:48:37 PM Remove Comment

 
I don't own to the water line, but I respect the rights of those who do. Private property rights are a cornerstone of our nation and a significant reason for our economic prosperity. It, and the rule of law, whether we sometimes like them or not, are what separates us from the many desolate and backwards countries in the world. Statism and socialism don't work. Absolute power corrupts absolutely and we should all fear as a nation tyranny of the masses. Pity us all if these fools who have no problem with the government seizing others' property win the day. As Thomas Jefferson said, a government powerful enough to give you everything you want is also powerful enough to take everything you have. We should thank Mr. Guidry and the others standing up for their rights and thereby defending all our rights.

Historian - Aug 26, 2008 04:21:06 PM Remove Comment

 
castaway thank you for the food why didnt you put more land aside to preserve. You begged the tourist to come and offered them every square inch for a dollar you let them hog it up like captain Delbert Marler said they would. why if you are the very hands and first did you raise us to be polite to outsiders even though they were filthy and had no respect. How did it imploded upon even you now. You actually had the power to do like jupiter martin county. you had the money to buy it and build your place and never develope it just for your pleasure. what happened that you are now an extinct species and dislike the very thing you built.

bayou boy - Aug 26, 2008 12:56:08 PM Remove Comment

 
sounds to me like the condo owners are lacking in documentation to qualify for constitional rights and are trying to gain money. you can say you own anything but without documentation to your claim seems like a uphill battle. just a casual observer.

peachybeach - Aug 26, 2008 12:19:39 PM Remove Comment

 
mockingbird you are right these birds are flying backward. the state already owns the propety in question seems like a back door attempt to turn public property into private. darryl you have a condo and a beachfront address and veiw and reservation on the beach behind your condo. Thats all the state can guarantee. Did your realator tell you different. They have been known to say such silly things when you were passing the money around. too bad they couldnt sell what they don't own. and finally what part of the state constition dont you understand and how much time do you have in life to spend when whatever the out come it will be appealed and we're back to square one. so you better enjoy it now before hurricane Gustav takes it all away for nobaby to enjoy.

bb - Aug 26, 2008 12:06:38 PM Remove Comment

 
Mr. Guidry is 100 percent correct. Without private property rights we have nothing. This whole restoration issue appears to be a back door attempt to take private property for public use without going through the due process of eminent domain as provided for in the constitution.

Darryl Shelton - Aug 26, 2008 11:18:22 AM Remove Comment

 



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